Political rants in chats… The joy!
July 14th, 2009 Joshua MoyersSoo… I got into a discussion that I figured I’d share with the maybe 1 or 2 people who actually look at my website. Names have been blocked out (except mine) to prevent people from getting upset, and some non-related stuff has been removed.
I got a bit into it, maybe a bit carried away but read and enjoy!
[w******] is anybody else watching/listening to the hearing?
[carbine] What hearing?
[w******] ..guess not…
[e******] It’s a done deal at this point.. this is just a formality.
[j******] sotomayor
[w******] yeah..
[carbine] Christ. Is she that crazy anti-gun bitch?
[j******] SHE GONNA TAKE UR GUNS, CARBINE
[w******] somebody said to the affect: unless [sotomayor] melt down, you will be confirmed
[e******] No, she’s the mayor of Soto
[e******] was probably the same NPR soundbite I heard.
[carbine] This lady is fucking crazy.
[w******] you don’t even know who she is, and you can say she’s crazy?
[carbine] From what I’ve read on her 2nd Amendment stance I find her crazy
[k******] no, carbine has the typical “i think she disagrees with me on one point, so she’s crazy” opinion
[w******] sorry, too frustrating..
[e******] w******o meet carbine, carbine, w******o
[k******] oh, he buggered off
[carbine] According to her the 2nd amendment doesn’t apply to citizens of the US
[carbine] Who the fuck does it apply to then??
[j******] bears
[k******] do you have a source, where he says “the second amendment doesn’t apply to us citezens” or some paraphrase thereof?
[k******] not saying she didn’t say tht, I’d just be interested read it
[carbine] It is that the Second Amendment only to limitations the federal government seeks to impose on this right,. said the opinion. Quoting Presser, the court said, .it is a limitation only upon the power Congress and the national government, and not upon that of the state
[carbine] http://www.cnsnews.com/public/Content/Article.aspx?rsrcid=48718
[carbine] states do not have to obey the Second Amendment.s commandment that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”[carbine] As long as we’re just making shit up as we go, I’d like to state that the local traffic laws such as speed limits and driving on the right side of the road don’t apply to anyone within my car.
[carbine] Also, arrest and search warrants don’t apply to me or my property.
[carbine] I’d say those are fair trades for just translating our civil rights however you please.
[carbine] That cunt.
[k******] hmm, that’s a more complex ruling than you make it seem
[e******] Carb, she has the typical female demo point of view.
[k******] though after reading three paragraphs I’d still say that i disagree with her.
[carbine] Ha. And the supreme court ruled against her when she basically tried to make it so minorities didn’t have to score as well in firefighter tests to get promotions.
[carbine] The reason we have our 2A rights are to protect ourselves from a government run by people like her.
[j******] the reason we have our 2A rights is because at the time, we were under british seige
[carbine] Right now we’re under USA seige.
[j******] there is no fighting going on.
[j******] there is no war in our country.
[carbine] But without methods to protect ourselves, our government could do a complete takeover and we wouldn’t have any way to prevent it.
[carbine] The government should be afraid of its people, not the other way around.
[e******] I gotta agree with carbine on this one..
[carbine] People misinterprate the 2A, thinking that it’s to protect ourselves from outsiders and criminals. It’s true intent is to ensure that our government doesn’t have the ability to rule us against our will.
[j******] the government should BE people
[j******] how do you define “complete takover”?
[j******] like, what would our government take over?
[e******] power corrupts, almost always.
[carbine] It’s in our goddamn declaration of independance that we have the right to decide if our government is working for us and that we have the right to abolish and replace our government if we feel fit. Taking away our methods of protection completely destroy that.
[e******] nods at carbine
[carbine] Not saying I think there should be a revolution right now, but if the people of this government were wronged and wanted a new government in place, we should have the right and means to do so.
[carbine] people of this nation**
[carbine] And the bad thing is, media, school… All of it is controlled by our government, and all of it is designed to keep us in line. Tell us that guns are bad and that we’re proteced by the patriot act, by our government. We don’t have the need to protect ourselves because the government is doing it for us. Well what if we want to protect ourselves from the government? Oh, sorry, we can’t do that because the people of this country have been taught to believe that a piece of metal which is used as a tool is the antichrist, and that if we have these guns that our children will die and crime will reign supreme.
[carbine] Guns are just tools. They aren’t any more dangerous than the people using them. The only reason why people are taught that they are so dangerous is because the government doesn’t want us to have a goddamn way to protect ourselves should we need to do so.
[carbine] They distract us with TV, sports… Everything so that while they’re making decisions for us to vote on, the average american isn’t paying attention and can’t/won’t help prevent things from being put in place. Those who do pay attention are vastly outnumbered.
[carbine] AAnd the US citizens are at fault just as much as those in power for letting themselves be manipulated and controlled.
[e******] fat, dumb, and happy.
[carbine] Go ahead and call me crazy, or some kind of conspiracy nutjob. I don’t fucking care.
[carbine] But at least think about what I said for a second.